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CLEVELAND, Ohio — Speakers at an Occupy Cleveland rally near the Free Stamp in Willard Park said the movement was endorsed today by supporters on the left and the right, which tells them they are on to something.
“The board of directors of Ben and Jerry’s Ice Cream said today they backed the movement,” Chris Sobolewski told a crowd of about 200 people Saturday afternoon. “Then we learned that FedUpUSA, one of the founding groups of the Tea Party also support the movement.
“I figure any time you can get a bunch of hippies who make ice cream and a bunch of right-wingers to agree then you’ve got something,” he said.
Signs bearing slogans like “Where’s our loophole?” “Greed will be the end of America” and the timely “Vote no on issue 2″ were everywhere at the park.
Sobolewski, 29, of Painesville Township, said the protests are just the beginning and would continue until fundamental charges are made.
“One percent of the people control 40 percent of the wealth,” he said. “If you are among the 99 percent, if you work for a company that is laying off people while making record profits, this is your movement.”
Yup. I couldn’t agree more with Mr. Sobolewski. We must stop attacking our fellow Americans and focus on the REAL criminals. Everyone must realize that the politico’s worst nightmare is that we stop our infighting and realize we’ve all been robbed….and by WHOM.
Oh, and I LOVE Ben & Jerry’s.
h/t Ads from the Forum
Answer: only if you let them
I received an email from a friend, incl several warnings about the Occupy [somewhere] movement, written by well-known conservative authors and exhorting conservatives to shun the Occupy Wall St. [or wherever] movement because it is linked to Obama groups and pals like ACORN and Van Jones and is a false flag movement.
Now I agree that we must be careful whom we stand with, because we may be suggesting to people that we agree with the Left – unless we are perfectly clear where we stand!
Consider this: The Left has been pretending to stand with good people ever since day one, while in fact standing with Satan. Stealth is their middle name.
I believe it may be time to turn the tables on them.
Yesterday, I got an email from a TX friend with an attachment showing a pamphlet on the “Occupy Houston” movement.
His point seemed to be that their literature was not well written and that it wasn’t clear what their goals were, so maybe they are bad guys to be avoided.
Ya know what? To me, that is a perfect opportunity for us to go to work. Because they can’t control the sidewalks and there’s no way they can control me.
If I lived in that part of the country and had a few extra hours, I’d make up a large poster reading “BRING BACK THE FREE MARKET” or “NO MORE SOCIALISM, MR. PRESIDENT,” or “SOLYNDRA, THE FRUITS OF ‘STIMULUS’ ” or the like, and I would unabashedly bring it along to the rally and hold it high. Look, if this is a false flag movement and they are just pretending to be on our side, then who would dare to stop me?
This morning I was listening to NHK News from Japan, and they had an international segment featuring the Occupy Wall St. movement in the US.
Unsurprisingly, the people they interviewed said nothing remotely suggesting they were socialist sympathizers, quite the opposite.
I almost fell off my chair when one lady said:
“When Barrack Obama was elected, we assumed that because he was a black man, he would do all he could to help the poor and underprivileged. He has done none of that.”
Yes, yes, I understand Van Jones and ACORN may have ties to the movement.
When I was in Lancaster, I attended a Tea Party rally and there were some people there who obviously were trying to infiltrate. I suspect they were from ACORN.
Here is what I don’t get: The LEFT infiltrates us all the time and we can see it happening and take it for granted.
Yet if a conservative wants to do the same back to them, all of a sudden, that “taints” us. Funny thing. The Left isn’t “taintable,” but conservatives are? Are we really that weak minded that getting too close to a lefty will rub off on us?
Well, look, if being around a bunch of lefties taints you — that is, influences you — then you are not well enough grounded in your conservatism and your Christian faith to leave your home.
As for me, I say with Paul: I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed unto Him against that day.
I mean that with regard to both my Christian faith and my political views. They are intertwined. Jesus’ view on socialism is clearly enunciated in John 6: http://laiglesforum.com/the-religious-left-in-bible-times-part-1/57.htm.
But if you are so timid in your faith and politics, and afraid of being misled by some half-baked Marxists who don’t know even a tenth of what the average conservative knows about history and economics, here is what you need to do:
Don’t ever have anything to do with a leftist. He’ll rub off on you.
Don’t go to town hall meetings and express your views. These meetings are full of lefties. It might rub off.
And don’t take part in surveys, online or off. The other respondents may be leftists. Ooooh, creepy!
Don’t write letters to the editor. The publication in which they are published is probably left of center and you might be thought of as a lefty. What would your conservative friends think of you?
Don’t go to the polls to vote. The polls are full of lefties and might persuade you to pull the wrong lever.
On the other hand, if you know what you believe and why, then go right ahead and attend any meeting or rally you darned well please and let people know how you think. Go ahead and listen to their misguided statements but be prepared to counter them – without fear, without anger, with love. You are dealing with the lost – with the weak, the ignorant. They’re in a much more precarious position than you will ever be. You can be their lighthouse. Why would you want to miss that opporunity? So, assuming you are educated on the issues (don’t try until you are), don’t be afraid to speak your mind and don’t be afraid to hold a poster advertising your view of why America is in a mess. These misguided lefties are the very ones you need to minister to, lovingly, compassionately and in God-given faith and wisdom. The chances are, many, maybe even most, will agree with you by the time you have told them what you think and why.
Consider that one of the main reasons they are in the dark is that conservatives have left them there.
We are the ones who have failed America. It’s time to grow a spine and do our job.
By Donald Hank – Laigles Forum
There are days I’m embarrassed to say I ever called myself a conservative. This would be one of them. It’s pathetic that it takes a comedian to point out what should be obvious to all of us. It is disgusting to see those who advocate upholding the Constitution of this country but deny its 1st Amendment protected rights to all but themselves. Yes, the hypocrisy is deafening.
Think whatever you want to about the Occupy movements, gobble up the pablum served to you by the main stream media if you will, but you suffer from rectal-cranial inversion if you deny these people their right to speak out peacefully and you’re nothing but a disgusting human being if you cheer the authorities for assaulting any of the peaceful demonstrators. It was not that long ago there was a certain Tea Party livid at the cries of ‘astroturf,’ ‘Nazi,’ and ‘racist,’ yet there are Tea Partiers who now do that to others. I think America needs a long hard look in the mirror….but I’ll let Jon Stewart give you a glimpse of that reflection.
We face an enemy common to all Americans: The capture of our government by the private institutions that create our money. It will take all of us setting aside personal and ideological agendas to defeat this corruption. We had better find common ground before what we have known as the ‘American dream’ is gone forever.
STOP THE LOOTING & START PROSECUTING!
Answer: Whoever wants it bad enough.
I caught a lot of flack from my conservative readers over my article suggesting that left and right should come together on the issue of the banking oligarchy. I pointed out that the only president to break the power of the banking elites in America was Andrew Jackson, a democrat, and that ironically, the Tea Party – the antithesis of Democrat ideology – now sounded more like Jackson than any prominent Democrat politicians or writers.
But the elephant in the room was the Occupy Wall Street movement’s apparent link to ACORN, and hence to our far left administration.
I knew about the ACORN link when I wrote the article. In fact, it seems Obama’s favorite Maoist Van Jones also may well be linked to the movement.
All of this is very bad indeed, and there has never been a leftist-organized movement that has been successfully used to the advantage of the right or of constitutionally minded Americans before.
But if my hunch is correct, and if God is with us (or in other words, if we deserve a break in God’s eyes), the Obama camp may be in for a surprise.
You see, there are two separate and opposite narratives going on in this same movement.
The narrative of the group that thought it was in charge is figuring prominently in New York City, blaming Wall Street and capitalism in general, never mind that Big Business is no longer governed by free market capitalist rules but by a series of machinations based on a government-business alliance, known as corporatism (or as fascism by the less charitable). A perfect example was Apple, headed by the recently deceased Steve Jobs. Around the last elections, about 91% of Jobs’ political donations went to the Democrats, who openly oppose the free market, while the other 9% went to the GOP, which at least pays lip service to the free market. So what does that tell you?
A free market ideology is virtually absent from Big Business today, as though the captains of industry were in a hurry to see their own demise. It is nothing short of surreal.
However, the narrative of the group that is rapidly assuming control of the Occupy Wall Street movement, for example, in Boston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago and elsewhere does indeed support free market principles. Many of these people seem to be coming from Ron Paul’s vast network, and they can be described as independents and libertarians, who, as you know, draw their intellectual sustenance from the free market enthusiasts of the Austrian School, and from Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand and the like, and, for whatever faults they may have, they loathe leftist Statism as much as Obama and fellow travelers love it.
According to Asia Times, far from calling for more government intervention to tax the rich, the new (and growing) narrative is a call “to end the banking cartel’s hold on Washington.”
This is a narrative not supported by either party. The GOP likes the corporatism behind the banking oligarchy’s power, which it is desperately trying to continue passing off as “capitalism” and “free market principles.” Likewise, the Democrats like corporatism because it brings money into their private and public coffers with generous donations from corporate fat cats who know that staying on the good side of the Dems will pay big dividends for them, and likewise, that failing to fawn all over these socialists will bring down a torrent of regulator interventions as it did on Gibson Guitar Corp., threatening to drive them out of business.
Probably the last best representatives of free market capitalism are to be found under H in the phone book: Handymen. These men are part of what used to be called the black market in the Soviet Union.
They pay little or no taxes, they hire no one and they are all but invisible to government.
We can only hope that our free market is soon restored to the point that the little guy, including the handyman, can at least dream of working his way into business ownership again, through hard work, creativity, intelligence and a benevolent, laissez-faire government that has no plans either to entangle him in an unholy alliance with it or to squash him like a bug simply for being independent and giving Americans – not Chinese or Mexicans or anyone else — jobs.
There’s a movement out there that started out for the purpose of further destroying sound American economic principles. But in the right hands, this same movement, with a narrative change, could very well bring us back to the free market, over the protests of the hapless left.
It’s ours for the taking.
Donald Hank – Laigles Forum
For those of you critical of the Occupy Wall Street protests: While I admit that the lead has been taken by the left, and their ‘proposed fixes’ are terrible, that doesn’t mean they are not absolutely correct in what they are doing by pointing out the criminality of Wall Street and its capture of our government. Do you LIKE the bailouts that are to this day continuing to destroy our economy and …our country?! These ongoing bailouts are the biggest welfare entitlements the world has ever known – and it has all been YOUR taxpayer money going to Wall Street!
FedUpUSA first started protesting on Wall Street in April 2008 – and we called for an occupation then too! THIS IS WHERE IT ALL STARTED! The only thing different about our message in this video is that we do not propose more communism to solve what is essentially an already communist government/Wall Street collusion.
What is keeping Tea Party folk, independents and conservatives from joining this and changing the dialogue about remedies? Why are you allowing the message to be ‘socialism is the only alternative to Wall Street fascism?’ Oh, there’s Wall Street fascism alright, but socialism and communism are NOT the answers. The answer is to stop allowing Wall Street, Banks and special corporations to pay Congress to write favorable legislation for them, to the detriment of the rest of us. This is neither capitalism nor a democratic republic form of government. It is CORRUPTION of our system.
Why are YOU letting the message against corruption, crony bailouts, devaluation of our dollar resulting in rampant price inflation, and failure to enforce already existing law upon certain ‘exempt’ entities become co-opted by far-leftist, communist radicals? Probably the same reason many in the Tea Party allowed it to be co-opted by far-right factions screaming against gays. This is and always has been about the shadow banking system (Wall Street) controlling the quantity of money in our economy, and using that money to purchase legislation while keeping politicians in office that will continue to favor Wall Street and the Too-Big-To-Fail Banks, essentially paying our government to look the other way when Wall Street commits criminal acts.
You do realize that the reason everyone is losing their jobs, homes and our government and most individuals are up to their eyeballs in debt is because the government is funneling all of our money to the Too-Big-To-Fail Banks both here in around the world, yes? Or don’t you understand that THIS is why there has been a $32 TRILLION net worth gain for the TOP 5% in this country, while the rest of us have lost a like amount? If you believe the system that orchestrated THAT is capitalism, I have a bridge to sell you. Stop defending our current system – it hasn’t been capitalism in decades; it is a kleptocracy. And don’t try telling me that ONLY the government is to blame (yes, they are part of this) – but Wall Street is just as guilty because THIS type of thing is NOT the doing of people in government! These are uniquely wall Street ‘innovations’ – the very innovations that have brought our country to its knees with the perverse amount of leverage they have put into the financial system.
The Wall Street and corporate-money capture of our government MUST END. Pick your enemies wisely but join the battle that is worthy and if need be, change the dialogue – Just like Dylan Ratigan is talking about in the video below.
Now listen to what Dylan Ratigan has to say:
FedUpUSA – Bear Stearns Protest, April 25, 2008
FedUpUSA On Glenn Beck August 21, 2008
It is disappointing to me that the Tea Party has gone so far astray from what it was intended to be. It was always supposed to be about stopping the looting and starting the prosecuting. Today, as so eloquently put by the film, Inside Job, not a single person responsible for this catastrophe has gone to jail. To the contrary, the same people are still in charge of the same enormous financial institutions, and those same institutions continue to rob us blind by contributing large sums of money to the campaigns of those in our government who allow these institutions and their officers to remain un-prosecuted by writing laws that exempt them from the criminal penalties that would apply to the rest of us.
There’s a word for this: Kleptocracy
[klep-tok-ruh-see] noun, plural ‐cies.a government or state in which those in power exploit national resources and steal; rule by a thief or thieves.